I just finished reading an article in Charisma magazine entitled, "What Audacious Prayers Can Do". Just reading the title, I could allow myself to feel a bit condemned since I'm not even sure I know what "Audacious Prayer" is. So I'm pretty sure I don't do much of it.
The author proceeded to cite stories from the Bible where God did amazing things in amazing ways, and then attempted to prove that He only did those amazing things because a human dared to pray an "audacious prayer".
But when I read those same Bible stories, it seems to me that most of those people were just blessed to be included in the plan God had for them; and, though they all seemed to mess up several times along the way, they had just enough faith in His faithfulness to hang on until they reached the end of their story.
Their faith was not in audaciously telling God what to do. Their faith didn’t come from confessing when, where or how God would help them. They seemed to have just barely enough faith to think that if they could hang on, somehow, somewhere, some way their God would be faithful and help them. That doesn't seem to be all that "audacious". It actually looks a lot more like me and my journey; or you and yours.
Abraham and Sarah had real struggles with their faith and actually laughed at God's promise, more than once. Abraham lied out of fear, more than once. They forced their servant girl to bear a child and kept running out of the "promised land" because they were afraid. And yet, God saw something in their hearts that was not evident by looking at most of their actions; which were certainly not “audacious in faith”. They had just enough faith in His faithfulness to hang on until they reached the end of their story.
And that's what it’s really all about- getting to the end of our story. The main reason we love the stories in the Bible is because they are all over (Whew!). Their battles are over; their victories have all been won. Their fear, worry and anxiety are over and the good will of God has been done for them.
We didn't have to stand with David in the face of Goliath, or with Daniel in the face of lions, or with Moses stranded between the Red Sea and the armies of Pharaoh. We love these stories because they are over and we didn't have to go through them. But we are able to look back on these stories and gain some understanding of when, where and how God helped them.
But our stories are still being written. Our battles are still being fought. The when, where and how God is going to help us are still unknown to us. But our faith is not built by telling God what to do or audaciously confessing into existence things we can't possibly know. Our faith is built as we keep reminding ourselves of the 2 undeniable facts that we can know-
1) WHO is going to help us? Our faithful Father-
Heb. 11:11- "...because he (Abraham) considered Him faithful who had made the promise." NIV
2) WHY will God help us? Because He loves us more than any other created things.
Matt. 6:26- "...and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?" NIV
You don't have to be "audacious" in prayer to please God. You don’t have to be able to “confess things into existence” to please God; we can’t do that, anyway. You just need to keep renewing your mind with these two plain truths. Our God is forever faithful to us and He will help us because He loves us with an everlasting love and considers us to be more valuable than any other created thing!
And remember, we have a family secret; a secret that only works for the family of God-
Rom. 8:28- "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him..." NIV
Read Part 1 of This Series Here
Prayer can sometimes seem very complicated. And if we are not careful in who we listen to, we may find ourselves feeling overwhelmed about how to pray. But in Ephesians 3, the two most simple, and most powerful, aspects of prayer come clear.
Paul said we should pray for ourselves, and for each other, in at least these two simple ways:
1) That the Spirit will strengthen our "inner man" by making us more and more aware that Christ is indeed living in us and through us every moment of every day.
2) And that we would be rooted and grounded (unshakable) in the ever increasing knowledge of how wide, how long, how high and how deep His great love is for us, now; not some day when we become more "holy", but He loves us fully, right now!
"I pray that Christ will be more and more at home in your hearts as you trust in him. May your roots go down deep into the soil of God's marvelous love. And may you have the power to understand, as all God's people should, how wide, how long, how high, and how deep his love really is. May you experience the love of Christ, though it is so great you will never fully understand it. Then you will be filled with the fullness of life and power that comes from God." Eph 3:17-19- NLT
We are deeply and fully loved by God right now. And may we all grow together in the ever increasing knowledge of that great love and the good works it produces through us!
Love God and Do What You Want
By Amanda Drake Cromley & Mark Drake
First, a Word from Amanda -
One of the most freeing pieces of advice my father ever gave me was “Love God and do what you want.” At first I was taken aback by its almost jarring simplicity. And it certainly didn’t sound anything like the “super spiritual” words of guidance you hear from most preachers.
But as he went on to explain this revelation that had been so liberating for him and eliminated so much stress and worry in his own life, I realized he was right.
Psalm 37:4 tells us to delight in the Lord and He will give us the desires of our heart. The best possible way for that to happen is for God’s desires to become our own. And as we love God more and more (delight in Him), that is exactly what happens. His desires for our lives become our desires.
And do you know what else I’ve realized? God can handle our mistakes. He knows we’re going to make poor choices sometimes. A lot of times, actually. And since He knows what we need before we can even think to ask, he has already planned a way for us to move past those mistakes and get back on the right track.
The mercy he poured out at the cross already provided a way back from our poor choices. And His transforming grace ensures we don’t remain in our mess. What an amazing Father.
- Amanda Drake Cromley
And, of course, now a word from my dad:
What is our Faith in?
- by Mark Drake
I know this idea of “Do what you want,” scares a lot of people. I have heard it many times. “If you tell people this, they will think it means they can just do any carnal, selfish thing they want.” I used to think this way myself. Until I began asking myself, “How did they do this in the New Testament and what did they put their faith in?”
How did Paul and his team decide where they would go next? They went where they felt like they should go; where they wanted to go. They put their faith in Christ living, by His Spirit, in and through them. They trusted the Spirit leading them from the inside out. And the only time we’re aware of that they had a sign or dramatic “leading,” was when the Spirit told them to NOT go into Asia, yet. It wasn’t God’s timing, yet. Later, when God’s will and God’s timing came together, they traveled into Asia, to Ephesus, and had the greatest numerical success ever. Beyond that they just went where logic guided them.
Paul didn’t teach that there was some kind mystical “perfect will of God” that only the super-spiritual ones can walk in while the rest of us stumble around in some kind of “permissible will of God.” What he did teach was to put our faith in the Spirit living in us to mold our “wants” to His “wants.”
The more we become aware of Him in us, the more we’ll realize He is unconsciously leading us. As we learn to walk humbly before the Lord, we can expect Him to open and close doors as He sees fit. And our humility will keep us open to all the ways God can lead us, including through other people.
When Jesus was challenged with, “What is the greatest commandment?” He didn’t respond with one of the Big Ten. Instead, He said, “Love God with all you are.” But that seems to be much too simple. Jesus responded with that answer because He understood what happens when a person truly responds to God’s love for them by loving Him back. What happens when I do this? The miracle of Christ in me begins to grow molding my desires to His.
The reason “Love God” seems too simple to us is because we don’t really believe what they believed in the days of the early church. We must put our faith in what they put their faith in; Christ is in me, changing me and leading me from within. We must believe that when someone chooses to respond to the love of God by loving Him back, a miracle begins! And He who started this miracle, He will complete in you! (Phil. 1:6)
One More Thing…
By the way, no good father says to his kids, “You must do what I want you to do. Your life will only work right when you exactly what I want you to do. If you don’t everything I want you to do, it will go really bad for you. And, oh yeah, you are going to have to guess what it is because I’m not telling.”
So relax, your Father is not just good, He’s the best!
Proverbs 22:6- “Train up a child in the way he should go and even when he is old he will not depart from it.”
This proverb, so often taken out of context, has been heaping guilt and condemnation on generations of parents and I think it is time that it stops. If the choices of grown children were dictated by how well their parents raised them, then God would be the worst father of all. Just look at His kids and the choices we repeatedly make.
If parents are responsible for the bad choices their children make, why don’t we blame the heavenly Father for the choices His kids make? Because we know that we have free will; and we know that we each make our own choices, good or bad, and we don’t blame God for our bad choices. The Father is always seeking to teach and guide His children with wisdom, but He always gives them free choice.
From the tree placed right in the middle of the Garden of Eden, to every circumstance we are faced with in our lives, God does not seek to control our behavior by force of His power, but He seeks to teach and lead us by giving us choices. He then empowers us to follow through on our righteous choices and reap the reward. When we acknowledge our bad choices, He even redeems them.
The First Kids
God is not interested in just controlling our behavior so that our actions are always righteous. He wants us to learn how to look to Him for the guidance and empowerment to make good choices.
If God wanted to control Adam and Eve’s choice by force, all He had to do was put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in a place they couldn’t reach. That would have insured good behavior, but it would not have been free choice and nothing would have been learned.
Instead, He placed the tree in the middle of the garden, where they saw it everyday. God wanted them and all their children to learn to look to Him for His wisdom in the choices they made.
So What About Human Parents?
So why is it any different with human parents? Why do we make imperfect, extremely fallible human parents more responsible for the choices of their children than the heavenly Father is for His kids? Ezekiel 18 says over and over- If the father chooses well but the son chooses poorly, the father is not to blame. Conversely, if the father makes bad choices but the child makes good choices, the child bears no guilt for the father’s choice.
Read Ezk. 18 for yourself and plant its truth firmly in your heart. God repeats it over and over, in several different ways; we are all responsible for our own choices. Apparently, He feels strongly about this idea of personal responsibility.
The Law of Sowing and Reaping
Remember, the law of sowing and reaping is in the New Covenant. (Gal. 6) Reaping bad results from making bad choices is not God’s angry judgment. It is actually God’s love working for our good. It is the simple result of our choices. So don’t blame God.
When you tell your child, “Don’t touch the hot stove,” and they choose to touch it anyway, they get burned. But they don’t look at you and scream, “Why did YOU burn me?” Even a child understands that you didn’t do that to them. They caused it by their choice. And this is the most important thing we can teach our children. Choices have consequences!
Genetics or Environment: A Matter of Choice
Does the example of our parents influence us? Of course. Does the environment we are raised in have an affect on us? Absolutely. But in the final analysis, each person is fully responsible for their choices. And when we exercise our choice to make Jesus Christ the owner of our life, we have the promise that we are now a new creation in Him. We have started a new genealogy based on our heritage through Christ, apart from our natural family.
We often see this when two children are raised in the same alcoholic family. One may grow up to be an alcoholic, choosing to repeat the sins of their parents. Yet, the other child sees the destruction alcohol has caused and chooses to never drink. One may grow to be bitter and resentful of the failure of the parents; while the other chooses to have compassion and live in forgiveness.
We even see this in non-believers who make these choices by human will power. How much more should it be true for those of us who are empowered by Christ’s life within us?
The Prodigal Son – Who Is To Blame?
Look at the story of the prodigal son. This story tells us about a series of choices a young man made because he was given the right to choose for himself. And he made some terrible choices that brought painful results. However, he knew that when he was ready to make a new choice, the door to home, and his father’s heart, was always open.
How much blame did the father in this story deserve? None. Jesus gives no indication that he was a bad parent. No doubt, the father heard the stories about his son’s foolish decisions. But he never protected him from the consequences. It was the consequences that brought the son to his senses. Was it painful to watch? I am sure it was. But was it worth it? Absolutely!
Remember, the elder son had all the outwardly righteous behavior, but his heart was filled with bitterness. Forgiveness and restoration came to the younger son who learned through his consequences and came to fully embrace the father’s love. We don’t know if the elder son, who’s outward behavior seemed good, ever came to enjoy the unconditional love of his father.
Be Good Parents…Unto The Lord
Should we seek to be the best parents we can be? Certainly. Not so much for the sake of the children, but to walk pleasing to the Lord for ourselves. My wife and I have eleven divorces and remarriages between our four parents. They did not set a good example. But we made a different choice. And the power of God’s grace living in and through us has enabled us to set a completely different example.
After over forty years of marriage, we have set a very different example, but we have been far, far from being perfect parents. Nonetheless, it is always up to our children to decide the choices they will make for their own lives.
Let Them Fail
Be glad when your children make a bad choice because now they will have an opportunity to learn important life-long lessons. Don’t be so quick to protect your children from the consequences of their poor choices. Certainly, this must be age-appropriate, but let your children learn that choices have consequences. Let them know you love them too much to insulate them from these valuable lessons.
Pray for your children. Do not pray that God will force them to serve Him, because God will not answer in that way. But pray that the goodness of God will overwhelm your children and that they will choose to respond by loving Him back! “Do you not know that is the goodness of God that leads you to repentance?” (Rom. 2:4)
If you feel you have been a poor parent, then humble yourself, repent to your children and ask their forgiveness. And, regardless of their response, be free of fear, shame and condemnation…because Jesus paid for that sin just as He paid for all other sins!
I strongly recommend Danny Silk’s book, “Loving Our Kids on Purpose” as one of the very best resources on how to parent children through the power of true grace and truly represent the nature of the Father to our children.
When the movie, American Sniper, quickly became a box office smash, Michael Moore (film maker and extreme critic of anything conservative) sarcastically said, "Since it is Sunday, perhaps we should ask, ‘What would Jesus do?’, or, ‘Who would Jesus snipe’?" Although I don't know or judge his heart’s motive, I doubt that Mr. Moore makes it a habit of asking “WWJD” about any area of his life.
To ask, "What would Jesus do?" in view of the politics of American Sniper or any civil government function, is a very misguided and erroneous way of thinking. It's a great mistake to try to apply the principles of the New Covenant to actually governing our country or any other. New Covenant principles should govern the way we live our lives, regardless of what we do for a living or where we live. But they cannot be used to run a civil government made up of unregenerated people.
Agape love is both the overriding guide and the internal power that enables believers to live by New Covenant principles. Everything commanded and expected in the New Covenant relies on “Christ in me”. Only He, living in and through us, can produce the ability to live together as the people of God. You cannot run a civil government that requires the miracle of “Christ in me” if the Spirit of Christ is not living in every citizen.
Civil Government Is Not Part of The New Covenant
The apostles NEVER taught how to run a civil government. The Kingdom of God is meant to flourish in any nation, any tribe, any form of civil government, because it is a spiritual kingdom where Jesus rules as King in the hearts of people, growing His image and character within them, no matter where they live. Jesus never taught how to run a civil, secular government. And other than for a relatively short period of time in Old Testament Israel, all nations are civil and secular governments.
When Christ returns, ALL nations will become His and ALL unrighteousness will be banished forever! Until then, Paul's instructions in Romans 13 are a good place to start in understanding how to be a good citizen in any civil government.
Caesar Is Lord or Christ Is Lord
Nero was Caesar over the Roman Empire from 54-68 AD. He believed he was a “god” come to earth to be worshiped as “lord”. Statues and images of Nero were built for objects of worship and allegiance. He despised Christians because of their allegiance to Christ as Lord.
What he couldn't understand was that the very allegiance he despised would actually make Christians better citizens in the Empire because of their love for the poor, their desire to live justly and their honor of authority. Both Peter and Paul wrote, "Honor Caesar". How to actually do that requires allowing the King to rule within our hearts and guide us through the complicated process of being a "good citizen", no matter where we live.
If you live in a voting democracy, then you should vote as wisely as you can. You are not electing a national pastor, but someone who has quality character AND the ability to lead, negotiate AND the ability to compromise for the "greater good in a fallen world".
“What Should We Do?”
John the Baptist, preparing the way for the King, was asked by sincere, repentant people, "What should we do?" In Luke 3:10-14, he answered, "Share what you have with the poor". To tax collectors working for Rome he said, "Collect no more than you are ordered". To Roman soldiers he said, "Don't take money by force, or accuse anyone unjustly and be content with your wages". What he didn’t say, to any of these groups, was “quit”.
We hear rousing sermons about David who “killed his ten thousands”. And when told the price of Saul’s daughter was “100 foreskins of the Philistines”, David brought back 200! We are told to honor David’s mighty men who were ranked by how many enemies they personally killed. The unsanitized truth is that those were extremely bloody times. But human history, because of the Fall, has always been bloody; and will be until the true King returns!
Love, Understanding and Suicide Bombers
As a young, inexperienced and naive hippie, newly converted in 1968, I thought our country should respond to international aggression and force with flowers, love and understanding. Oh, the shallow musings of the inexperienced and naive. How do you show love and understanding to people who believe eternal paradise is theirs if they slaughter us; all of us? How do we “turn the other cheek” to those who highest aim in life is to kill all who do not agree with them?
I’ve been around the world several times in the past few years and I’ve seen many different forms of civil government. I love my country and I am deeply grateful for being born in America. I do my best to be an informed voter and I do hope our elected officials will do whatever is necessary to keep us safe.
The Return of the King!
But after 65 years of living in a falling world, seeing the failure of both Democrats and Republicans, the collapse of the USSR, the fall of the Berlin wall and the horrific rise of Islamic extremists, I do not fool myself into thinking any human politics will bring the Kingdom of God. Only the return of the King will do that.
And though I have no idea when (and neither does anyone else!), I am absolutely convinced He is returning to earth. And when He does, the kingdoms of the world will become the kingdoms of our God. Until then, Romans 13 gives us important guidelines no matter where we live, no matter what kind of government we live under.
1 Tim 2:1-3- “I urge you, first of all, to pray for all people. As you make your requests, plead for God's mercy upon them, and give thanks. 2 Pray this way for kings and all others who are in authority, so that we can live in peace and quietness, in godliness and dignity.” NLT
For years I taught what had been taught to me- “When God looks at you, He doesn’t see you, He only sees Jesus.” That may sound sweet in some religious way but it is just plain wrong. And what it really says is that if God did see you, as you really are, He wouldn’t like you at all! The good news is the Bible actually teaches the exact opposite.
This mistaken belief is often coupled with the statement that God is so holy He cannot “look” upon any unholiness. Of course, this is not true. If it was true, God could not see any human being on earth nor the very creation itself which has been plunged into a fallen state, groaning in travail, until the “restoration of all things”. (Acts 3)
But what does the scripture actually tell us? (Remember, this is in the New Covenant)
Heb 4:12-13- “For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.” NASB
This passage, and many others, tells us that God sees everything!
This should be tremendous news to us because it also says that He sees our thoughts and hearts! This means we are not judged by our actions but the intent, or faith, of our heart. Jesus paid for our sins, all of them, and God sees the faith of our hearts as we trust in His free gift of righteousness based on the actions of Christ.
This is why the very next verse says…
“Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.” (Heb 4:14) NASB
Our confession must be that we are made righteous through the action of our high priest, Jesus, the Son of God. God sees us, everything about us. He understands our present weaknesses and loves us completely because He also sees us completed in eternity through the work of Christ.
So what must we be doing now?Listen to the final statement of this passage in Hebrews…
“Therefore, let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” (Heb 4:16 NASB)
What should we be doing now?Drawing near to Him with confidence because He sees us and loves us; AND He is completing the work of sanctification in us. He who has justified us is the One who is presently sanctifying us from the inside out. This is the work of true grace!
“For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.” (Phil 1:6-7) NASB
For much more on this subject see Mark’s book, “God’s Brilliant Cure…for fear, shame and condemnation”.
“If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray, I will hear from heaven and heal their land.”
2 Chron. 7:14 is used so freely today without even asking ourselves, “Who was God speaking to, what was He referring to and how should it effect us now?"
Huge prayer gatherings are based on the idea that if we will just pray hard enough, long enough and with enough people, God will “heal” America and somehow the Kingdom of God will come here (or into whatever country the praying believers currently live in). But we must ask if this is actually a New Covenant concept or if we have missed the point completely.
Why Is This Important?
This is an important question because it deals with the very foundation of understanding the shift from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant. What actually makes the New Covenant, new? In the Old Covenant, the land was literal and the kingdom was visible. In the New Covenant, Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world” and “The Kingdom of God is within you“; not matter what nation you live in.
So this question deals with how the Old Testament “shadow” of the natural Kingdom of God through the literal people of Israel, has changed to the “substance” of the spiritual Kingdom of God within everyone who has made Jesus King of their lives…no matter what country they live in.
We are told in passages such as Col. 2:17, and Heb. 10:1, that the Old Covenant, and everything pertaining to it, are shadows of what would be fulfilled in Christ. The Word says He is the substance of all Old Testament shadows. This truth is what makes the New Covenant actually NEW.
How Should We Read The Old Testament?
Whenever we read the Old Testament we must always ask ourselves, “How is this fulfilled in Christ?” Remember, Heb. 1:1 tells that in the Old Testament, God spoke His words and gave revelation of His will through the prophets; but now He has spoken through His Son.
2 Chronicles 7 talks about the temple, the land and the throne of David. So what does this mean in the New Covenant? Why didn’t any of the New Testament writers, all Jewish men, instruct the believers to follow the command of 2 Chron. 7:14? My suggestion is that they knew it was already fulfilled.
The New Testament clearly tells us that Jesus is the true temple; and because He lives in us, we are the temple of God on the earth. The land is a shadow of what Jesus clearly defined as His kingdom within the hearts of people from every nation, tongue and tribe. And one of the most important truths about the Christ is that He is the heir to the throne and kingship foreshadowed in David. This is why the New Testament writers called us strangers and pilgrims in this present world.
The Promise Has Already Been Fulfilled!
The promise of 2 Chron. 7:14 has already been fulfilled in Christ. God has fulfilled His own promise through His own Son by bringing His Kingdom into human hearts; and promising that His Kingdom will one day rule over all the earth. Now, anyone who receives Him as king, receives the healing of 2 Chron. 7:14. We are His Kingdom, we are His land.
God shows no respect to genetics, racial heritage or geography. In Christ, He has made one new man out of every Jew and Gentile who believe. And one day He will return and establish a literal kingdom that will cover the earth by making all things new. (2 Peter 3:13)
Isn’t it good for people to come together and pray? It is, if we come together and pray according to the will of God. There is no model in the New Testament of praying for the healing of individual nations or individual lands. But there are several models for praying for “doors to open for the declaration of the mystery of Christ” (Col.4:3). 1 Tim 2:1-4 gives us an excellent model.
“First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Who Was This Written To?
This was written to people who were being severely persecuted by the Roman government; in many cases, they were being hunted down like animals. And this was not a call for some large gathering but instruction for each believer as part of their everyday life.
Rather than pray for some kind of “healing of the literal land“ now, we are told to pray for His Kingdom to come into the hearts of more and more people, now. And the King wants to use us to fulfill that prayer every time we share the Gospel, which is “the power of God for salvation to all who will believe, the Jew first and also to the Gentile” (Rom. 1:16).
So, What Do We Do Instead?
We will be far, far more fruitful if we spend more time with people, sharing the Gospel of Grace (Christ wants to live in you) and demonstrating His goodness, since it is His goodness that causes people to repent and brings healing into the “land” of human hearts. (Rom. 2:24)
Instead of spending so much time, effort and money in so many large prayer gatherings, perhaps we would be better served if we spent far more time, effort and money to “Go into all the world and make disciples in every nation…”
Bono of U2 Speaks about “Grace over Karma”This is a very interesting article taken from an interview with Bono of the band U2. Of course, it’s not entirely accurate in it’s definition of true grace since it speaks more of mercy than true grace.
However, I found it to be extremely interesting…and a great way to talk to the world about the Gospel and the most important question of all- Who is this Christ?. He clearly makes no apology for what he believes!
Bono Interview: Grace Over Karma
(Excerpt from the book Bono: In Conversation with Michka Assayas ) (Taken from the web site- The Poached Egg)
Bono: My understanding of the Scriptures has been made simple by the person of Christ. Christ teaches that God is love. What does that mean? What it means for me: a study of the life of Christ. Love here describes itself as a child born in straw poverty, the most vulnerable situation of all, without honor. I don’t let my religious world get too complicated. I just kind of go: Well, I think I know what God is. God is love, and as much as I respond [sighs] in allowing myself to be transformed by that love and acting in that love, that’s my religion. Where things get complicated for me, is when I try to live this love. Now that’s not so easy.
Assayas: What about the God of the Old Testament? He wasn’t so “peace and love”?
Bono: There’s nothing hippie about my picture of Christ. The Gospels paint a picture of a very demanding, sometimes divisive love, but love it is. I accept the Old Testament as more of an action movie: blood, car chases, evacuations, a lot of special effects, seas dividing, mass murder, adultery. The children of God are running amok, wayward. Maybe that’s why they’re so relatable. But the way we would see it, those of us who are trying to figure out our Christian conundrum, is that the God of the Old Testament is like the journey from stern father to friend. When you’re a child, you need clear directions and some strict rules. But with Christ, we have access in a one-to-one relationship, for, as in the Old Testament, it was more one of worship and awe, a vertical relationship. The New Testament, on the other hand, we look across at a Jesus who looks familiar, horizontal. The combination is what makes the Cross.
Assayas: Speaking of bloody action movies, we were talking about South and Central America last time. The Jesuit priests arrived there with the gospel in one hand and a rifle in the other.
Bono: I know, I know. Religion can be the enemy of God. It’s often what happens when God, like Elvis, has left the building. [laughs] A list of instructions where there was once conviction; dogma where once people just did it; a congregation led by a man where once they were led by the Holy Spirit. Discipline replacing discipleship. Why are you chuckling?
Assayas: I was wondering if you said all of that to the Pope the day you met him.
Bono: Let’s not get too hard on the Holy Roman Church here. The Church has its problems, but the older I get, the more comfort I find there. The physical experience of being in a crowd of largely humble people, heads bowed, murmuring prayers, stories told in stained-glass windows
Assayas: So you won’t be critical.
Bono: No, I can be critical, especially on the topic of contraception. But when I meet someone like Sister Benedicta and see her work with AIDS orphans in Addis Ababa, or Sister Ann doing the same in Malawi, or Father Jack Fenukan and his group Concern all over Africa, when I meet priests and nuns tending to the sick and the poor and giving up much easier lives to do so, I surrender a little easier.
Assayas: But you met the man himself. Was it a great experience?
Bono: We all knew why we were there. The Pontiff was about to make an important statement about the inhumanity and injustice of poor countries spending so much of their national income paying back old loans to rich countries. Serious business. He was fighting hard against his Parkinson’s. It was clearly an act of will for him to be there. I was oddly moved by his humility, and then by the incredible speech he made, even if it was in whispers. During the preamble, he seemed to be staring at me. I wondered. Was it the fact that I was wearing my blue fly-shades? So I took them off in case I was causing some offense. When I was introduced to him, he was still staring at them. He kept looking at them in my hand, so I offered them to him as a gift in return for the rosary he had just given me.
Assayas: Didn’t he put them on?
Bono: Not only did he put them on, he smiled the wickedest grin you could ever imagine. He was a comedian. His sense of humor was completely intact. Flashbulbs popped, and I thought: “Wow! The Drop the Debt campaign will have the Pope in my glasses on the front page of every newspaper.”
Assayas: I don’t remember seeing that photograph anywhere, though.
Bono: Nor did we. It seems his courtiers did not have the same sense of humor. Fair enough. I guess they could see the T-shirts.
Later in the conversation:
Assayas: I think I am beginning to understand religion because I have started acting and thinking like a father. What do you make of that?
Bono: Yes, I think that’s normal. It’s a mind-blowing concept that the God who created the universe might be looking for company, a real relationship with people, but the thing that keeps me on my knees is the difference between Grace and Karma.
Assayas: I haven’t heard you talk about that.
Bono: I really believe we’ve moved out of the realm of Karma into one of Grace.
Assayas: Well, that doesn’t make it clearer for me.
Bono: You see, at the center of all religions is the idea of Karma. You know, what you put out comes back to you: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, or in physics; in physical laws every action is met by an equal or an opposite one. It’s clear to me that Karma is at the very heart of the universe. I’m absolutely sure of it. And yet, along comes this idea called Grace to upend all that “as you reap, so you will sow” stuff. Grace defies reason and logic. Love interrupts, if you like, the consequences of your actions, which in my case is very good news indeed, because I’ve done a lot of stupid stuff.
Assayas: I’d be interested to hear that.
Bono: That’s between me and God. But I’d be in big trouble if Karma was going to finally be my judge. I’d be in deep s—. It doesn’t excuse my mistakes, but I’m holding out for Grace. I’m holding out that Jesus took my sins onto the Cross, because I know who I am, and I hope I don’t have to depend on my own religiosity.
Assayas: The Son of God who takes away the sins of the world. I wish I could believe in that.
Bono: But I love the idea of the Sacrificial Lamb. I love the idea that God says: Look, you cretins, there are certain results to the way we are, to selfishness, and there’s a mortality as part of your very sinful nature, and, let’s face it, you’re not living a very good life, are you? There are consequences to actions. The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death. That’s the point. It should keep us humbled . It’s not our own good works that get us through the gates of heaven.
Assayas: That’s a great idea, no denying it. Such great hope is wonderful, even though it’s close to lunacy, in my view. Christ has his rank among the world’s great thinkers. But Son of God, isn’t that farfetched?
Bono: No, it’s not farfetched to me. Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: he was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn’t allow you that. He doesn’t let you off that hook. Christ says: No. I’m not saying I’m a teacher, don’t call me teacher. I’m not saying I’m a prophet. I’m saying: “I’m the Messiah.” I’m saying: “I am God incarnate.” And people say: No, no, please, just be a prophet. A prophet, we can take. You’re a bit eccentric. We’ve had John the Baptist eating locusts and wild honey, we can handle that. But don’t mention the “M” word! Because, you know, we’re gonna have to crucify you. And he goes: No, no. I know you’re expecting me to come back with an army, and set you free from these creeps, but actually I am the Messiah. At this point, everyone starts staring at their shoes, and says: Oh, my God, he’s gonna keep saying this. So what you’re left with is: either Christ was who He said He was the Messiah or a complete nutcase. I mean, we’re talking nutcase on the level of Charles Manson. This man was like some of the people we’ve been talking about earlier. This man was strapping himself to a bomb, and had “King of the Jews” on his head, and, as they were putting him up on the Cross, was going: OK, martyrdom, here we go. Bring on the pain! I can take it. I’m not joking here. The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside-down by a nutcase, for me, that’s far fetched.
Bono later says it all comes down to how we regard Jesus:
Bono: If only we could be a bit more like Him, the world would be transformed. When I look at the Cross of Christ, what I see up there is all my s— and everybody else’s. So I ask myself a question a lot of people have asked: Who is this man? And was He who He said He was, or was He just a religious nut? And there it is, and that’s the question. And no one can talk you into it or out of it.
The most basic truth of the Gospel is that the righteous judgment and justified wrath of the infinitely perfect God was fully exhausted at the cross. All judgment and wrath was placed upon Jesus when “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Cor. 5:21)
When Jesus said, “It is finished”, He declared that the judgment of God was fully satisfied and the full penalty was paid. Is. 53 describes in great detail how God poured out His righteous anger upon His Son. The New Testament says repeatedly that all judgment and wrath was “nailed to the cross”. (Col. 1:20, Col. 2:14, 1 Pet. 2:24) This freedom from wrath is for all who will believe.
In Jesus’ explanation of God’s brilliant plan to the highly educated doctor of the Law, Nicodemus, He makes it simple and clear that God was going to free everyone through giving the Son. To qualify for this freedom from wrath, a person must believe in the sufficiency of the offering of the Son.
John 3:36: “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
The requirement to obey here cannot mean “keep all the rules/laws” since the scripture says no one can perfectly keep them all. He says here that we obey by “believing in the Son” and then we receive the free gift He spoke about back in verses 16-17, “God so loved the world that He gave His Son…he who believes in the Son is not judged”.
Free From the Wrath to Come
The apostles repeatedly declared that this freedom from the judgment that must come at the end of this age is the very heart of our hope.
Rom 5:9-10: “Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.”
1 Thess 5:9-10:“For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,”
1 Thess 1:10: “…and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come.”
So, Is There No More Wrath of God?
Do these promises mean God put away His wrath forever, for everyone? Sadly, no.
The scripture is clear that the justified wrath of the holy God must be revealed against all who reject His free gift through the cross. Make no mistake, there is a day of judgment coming at the end of this age. If we reject Christ’s free gift of righteousness (unearned rightness with God) we are left to defend our own self-righteousness in comparison to God’s perfect righteousness…and we will always lose.
This judgment is not based on God’s desire to punish but on the free choice we all must make.
Paul says that those who reject God’s free gift are “…storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God…” (Rom 2:5) Take note that we do this for ourselves.
God must respond in righteousness and justice to our choice. God is not an all-powerful tyrant who is just “itching to pour out punishment”. On the contrary, “God loves the world so much that He gave His Son…any who believes in Him is not judged”! (John 3:16-17)
Jesus goes on to say “…he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18) The issue of judgment and wrath which people will bring upon themselves is not “sins” but the sin of choosing to not believe in the free gift provided by a loving God.
Love and Justice
Remember, God is completely love…and completely just. Because He is the infinitely perfect God, is both completely love and completely just…at the same time. Because He is completely love, He has provided the free gift of righteousness through Christ and He is waiting patiently until the end of this age.
Because He is completely just, He will then judge all based on His perfect righteousness. Those who have received the free gift of Christ’s perfect righteousness are justified. Those who do not, will have to justify themselves with their own grossly inferior human self-righteousness. Sadly, they will fail.
Rom 1:18: “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness…”
Rom 2:5: “But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God…”
The context of this passage shows us that the “you” Paul refers to here are the people who have rejected the knowledge and requirements of an almighty God who is clearly revealed in all of creation.
The “Wrath” Question Has To Do With “Son-ship”
Eph 2:1-3: “And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath…”
Eph 5:6: “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”
Paul makes it clear and simple. It is based on believing, which produces “son-ship” by being “born again”. Or, choosing not to believe and remaining a “child of darkness”. He says there are “sons of God” or “children of God”; and there are “sons of disobedience” or “children of wrath”.
The word of God clearly and boldly declares that God reveals Himself through creation, by His Spirit and by His word. Any who desire a relationship with Him from their heart will find Him. He guarantees it. Those who are His through new birth, through spiritual regeneration, are forever free from judgment and wrath. This is truly good news.
All Are Not Children of God
But not everyone will choose to accept God’s free gift and become sons of God. Sadly, eternal judgment is a terrifying reality for all who reject His free gift of righteousness through the offering of Jesus on the cross.
Jesus spoke about judgment and hell on several occasions but always with a deep sadness of heart. Even when speaking harshly to the Pharisees about their hypocrisy and their refusal to hear the truth, He followed with, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it!” (Luke 13:34-35)
And again, “When He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it, saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes.” (Luke 19:41-42) This is a God of love who does not force Himself on people but has given people free choice…and grieves over the terrible choice that people, who should know better, are making. He knows the terrible consequences of their choice.
We who believe are empowered to live free of the fear of judgment for ourselves. But we must be moved to action by the eternal reality of the coming judgment upon others and we must sow the “word of His grace” to all we can…while there is still time.
Reach out to people, build relationships, demonstrate the hope we have in Christ, love the least among us, give generously to the mission of the Kingdom and help sow the word of His grace. Let’s passionately help grow His kingdom and help rescue people from the “wrath to come”!
I can relate to always wanting to do more for the Kingdom but not having the resources to do it all. I am experiencing more of that right now than ever before in my whole life. Our ministry brought in less than $200,000.00 last year; the lowest in several years.
And yet, we trained hundreds of leaders around the world who lead over a million people. We gave away thousands of DVDs, CDs, books and study guides that are now being used daily in several countries. That’s a lot of “bang for the buck”!
But we could have done more, trained more, reached more…if we just had more money. And God could have provided more money if He wanted to.
There can be a great frustration in knowing that we all could do more if we just had more and knowing that God could easily provide more…but He doesn’t.
I look to Paul’s writings and see a man who said he always hungered to go to places where the gospel had never been preached. And yet, he spent many of the most profitable years of his life (from any natural point of view) locked up in prison by Nero, the man John called the beast/anti-christ in Revelation.
How frustrating could that have been knowing God could have easily gotten him out at any moment…but didn’t?
Paul’s peace and life-fulfillment did not come from all he accomplished, the number of churches he planted or the volume of people he reached. It came from his absolute assurance that “all things work together for my good” (Rom 8:28) and “having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will” (Eph 1:10-11) .
Clearly, Paul was constantly pushing ahead to reach more and do more; and that desire was good and it was from the Lord. But he did not allow that desire to pressure him, drive him or make him feel guilty when God did not provide the means or opportunity.
Paul rested in the knowledge that God could open any door and provide any resource…when He chose to…because He does work all things after the counsel of His own will. At the same time, he never used the material blessings that came or the influence he had over other people to lavish on himself. In fact, he constantly warned “the rich of this world” to be very careful, to be very generous and always ready to give.
1 Tim 6:8-10- “But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs”.
Wow, doesn’t this sound like a severe warning to the current push among so many charismatics today that we should all be rich? How does this measure up to the popular message that we show the world how much God is blessing us by enjoying the best material things of this world?
Listen to the command Paul gives to Timothy in the next few verses-
1 Tim 6:17-19- “Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.”
Look at that last line- “Take hold of the life that is truly life!” That’s what I hunger for!
So I want to always hunger to do more, reach more, bless more…without feeling guilty or fruitless when God doesn’t open the doors of opportunity or provide the resources to walk through them. I want to live in peace and rest, fellowshipping the Lord, as I wait to be led by the Spirit.
Mark Drake is an internationally known author, teacher and leader. He focuses on equipping leaders around the world in New Covenant Grace.